How to Get Into PA School With a Low GPA
PA school administrators from ten top-ranking PA programs answer your questions on how to get into PA school with a low GPA.
A low GPA is probably the hardest area to improve.
This makes sense – it was years in the making, and can’t be undone without time. It can take about a year in advanced level science courses to bump a high 2.x GPA over 3.0. The lower your GPA, and the more classes you’ve taken, the longer it will take to reflect improvements in your academic record.
What is your CASPA calculated GPA?
Before you do anything it is important that you have this number in hand. You can view your CASPA GPAs once your application has been Verified. You can read about that here on the CASPA website.
When I applied to PA school I had a cumulative GPA of 2.9, a result, probably like many of you reading this, of some early misdirection. I got my act together in the second half of my undergraduate career, finishing on the Dean's list with a 3.8 GPA. But my overall GPA did not fully recover and was lower than the 3.0 minimum of the school where I was accepted.
Indeed this is not the norm, but you should not let a lower than average GPA stop you from finding a path to PA school if this is truly your passion.
Fortunately, you are not alone. Every year PA programs from across the country come together to answer questions posed by aspiring Pre-PA students like yourself. Not surprisingly, questions regarding PA school admissions and low (or lower than average) GPA topped the list.
Below are the answers to these questions.
20 Physician Assistant Programs That Accept Low Overall/Cumulative GPAs or Have No Minimum GPA
- University of Saint Francis: 2.0
- University of Utah: 2.7
- University of Dubuque: 3.0
- University of Nevada Reno: 2.75
- University of Kentucky: 2.75
- South College: 2.75
- Rosalind Franklin University of Medicine and Science: 2.75
- Keiser University: 2.75
- Interservice Physician Assistant Program: 2.75
- Rocky Vista University: 3.0
- Northwestern Medicine Feinberg School of Medicine: 2.8
- Des Moines University: 2.8
- Yale Online PA Program: 3.0
- Arcadia University: No minimum (recommended 3.0 or better)
- Albany Medical College: No minimum (grade of C or better in required prerequisites)
- Weill Cornell Medicine: No minimum
- Boston University: No minimum (science GPA of 3.0 or better)
- Duke University: No minimum (grade of C or better in required prerequisites)
- Idaho State University: No minimum (grade of C or better in required prerequisites and cumulative prerequisite GPA of 3.0)
- Kettering College: No minimum (grade of C or better in required prerequisites and cumulative prerequisite GPA of 3.0)
**Hint: Use my Perfect PA Program Picker and sort the table by GPA requirements (from lowest to highest) to see which PA schools you can apply to based on your overall and science GPA. Make sure to confirm the latest numbers with the program directly.
Here is an additional table that was provided on the PA forums. Included in this are PA programs that consider the trend of last 30, 45, or 60 credit hours for admissions.
School | CGPA | SGPA | PREREQGPA | HCE |
Rosalind Franklin | 2.75 (Last 60 CH) | 2.75 | C or better | 800 Hrs |
South College | 2.75 | 2.75 prereq sci | 2.75 | N/A |
Arcadia Uni | 3.0 Recommended | N/A | N/A | 200 Hrs |
Charles R Drew | 3.0 Preferred | 3.0 Preferred | 3.0 Preferred | 2,000 Hrs |
James Madison | 3.0 Preferred | N/A | N/A | 1,000 Hrs |
Keiser Uni | 2.75 | 3.0 | 3.0 | 100 Hrs |
MGH | N/A | 3.0 preferred | B- or better | 1,000 Hrs |
Stephens College | 2.75 | 3.0 | 3.0 | 500 Hrs |
Wayne State Uni | 3.0 (Last 60 CH) | N/A | 3.0 | 500 Hrs |
UW Medex | 3.0 (Last 60 CH) | N/A | B- or better | 2,000Hrs (paid) |
University of Utah | 2.7 | 2.7 | C or better | 2,000 Hrs |
Uni of North Dakota | 3.0 or recent transcripts showing improvement | N/A | B or better | 6,000 hrs full time experience |
Uni of North Carolina | 3.0 (Last 60 CH) | N/A | 3.2 | 1,000Hrs |
Uni of New Mexico | 3.0 (last 60 CH) | 3.0 | C or better | 500 Hrs |
Uni of Nevada, Reno | 2.75 | N/A | B- or better | 2,000 Hrs |
EVMS | 3.0 (Last 40 CH) | N/A | B- or better | 1,500 AVG |
Case Western | 3.0 (Last 40 CH) | 3.0 (Last 40 CH) | N/A | 1,000 Hrs |
Campbell Uni | 3.2 (Last 60 CH) | N/A | 3.4 Recommended | 1,000 Hrs |
Adventist Uni | 3.0 Requested | 3.0 Requested | N/A | 2,000 Hrs |
Lincoln Memorial Uni | 2.8 | 2.8 | C or better | 150 Hrs |
Rocky Vista Uni | 2.8 | 3.0 BCP Preferred | N/A | 1,000 Hrs |
Des Moines Uni | 2.8 | N/A | C or better | 750 Hrs |
Western Michigan University | 3.0 (Last 60 CH) | N/A | N/A | 1,000 Hrs |
North Greenville University | 3.3 (May request last 60 CH) | 3.0 Sci Prereq | B or better | 3,350 AVG |
Admissions Directors Tell All: Your PA School GPA Questions Answered
This post is part one of a two-part series focused on steps you can take to mediate a lower than desired GPA and the first in a multi-part series of posts exploring questions asked by PA school applicants and answers provided by the PA program admissions directors from seven PA programs.
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PRE-PA Questions are in bold
With answers following each question and a reference to the corresponding PA school admissions director who provided the answer.
Q: Do you have any advice for an applicant who has a low GPA to help set them apart and be considered over someone who has a higher GPA?
Q: What do you suggest if my GPA just barely meets the minimum requirement for acceptance?
Q: If I were to retake classes and get better grades but not yet reach a 3.0, would the upward trend in my grades be considered?
Q: I am right at the minimum GPA and healthcare experience I was wondering if it would be more beneficial to do a year master program to increase my GPA or to focus more on HCE?
Q: I know going up against others with a GPA of 4.0 or very close to that. That will make it harder for me to get an interview, right?
Q: If I got a C in an upper-level Organic Chem course would that lessen my chances at getting in?
Q: What is a competitive GPA?
Q: How can one make other parts of their application look competitive if their science GPA is on the lower end? More HCE hours? High GRE score?
Angela Duckworth, a Psychology Professor at the University of Pennsylvania, has found through her research that: “Smarter students actually had less grit than their peers who scored lower on an intelligence test. This finding suggests that among the study participants — all students at an Ivy League school — people who are not as bright as their peers ‘compensate by working harder and with more determination.’ And their effort pays off: The grittiest students — not the smartest ones — had the highest GPAs.
Q: I am a recent graduate holding a biological science degree, I am currently volunteering at a lab and working at a dermatology office as a medical assistant. I am working on my extra-curricular activities and building on my resume. Unfortunately, I did not do so well in undergrad. My GPA is very low, so my question to you is, is GPA considered as highly valuable? I plan to go above and beyond with my recommendations, HCE, volunteering and personal statement. If I do very well in all of those, will that still give me a chance?
Q: I graduated a long time ago. I didn't always do so well in my undergraduate GPA, but it's impossible for me to repeat all the prerequisite courses again. How is the GPA requirement for admissions calculated? I have taken classes since undergrad and have done stellar.
Q: If I took the GRE, can it offset a lower GPA? Or does AT still not factor the GRE at all?
Q: My first couple years of college I did very poorly and was eventually dismissed. I did attend another college and ended up graduating with honors(woot-woot!), however, the way CASPA calculates cumulative GPA; despite graduating with a high GPA CASPA reflects it much lower. How much would that affect your review of my application?
Q: Do you consider each GPA individually, the overall GPA, or is the undergrad GPA weighted more heavily in your decision?
Q: I have a low GPA and plan to retake a few science courses that will boost up my prereqs/science GPA. I was hoping to do this online that way I can work/take classes. Would I still be considered seeing that I am not retaking the lab? Also if I don't meet the overall GPA requirement but do meet the science/prereq GPA will my application still be looked at?
Q: My undergrad GPA suffered due to extenuating circumstances that will be discussed in my personal statement. Since graduating, I have worked to improve my overall science GPA. This was why I previously asked if you considered each GPA individually, the overall GPA, or if undergrad GPA weighted more heavily in your decision. When speaking with other programs my undergraduate science GPA is the main GPA discussed. In other words, it appears that my post-baccalaureate and new overall science GPA isn’t considered as heavily as my undergrad GPA. Additionally, during interviews this cycle, it was suggested to take master's level science courses instead of continuing to take undergraduate courses. Therefore, I am aiming to improve my chances and overall competitiveness as an applicant by enrolling in master's level science courses. Thank you for your advice in this decision as to which program is best for me!
Q: Does post-baccalaureate GPA get weighted if it's significantly higher than undergrad GPAs?
Q: I graduated a long time ago. I didn't always do so well in my undergraduate GPA, but it's impossible for me to repeat all the prerequisite courses again. How is the GPA requirement for admissions calculated? I have taken classes since undergrad and have done stellar
Q: If your GPA is not strong but your work experience is, is that taken into consideration?
Q: You said that there is no minimum GPA, but how important is GPA when considering applicants?
Q: If my GPA is not the highest, but I volunteer consistently, go on medical volunteer trips, and have leadership positions in on-campus organizations, as well as over 1,000 hands-on patient care hours, could that be enough to still make me a competitive applicant to your program?
Q: If I am a candidate, who does not have a competitive GPA what other things can I do? I am involved in research with my chemistry professor, I tutor biology, and I have 2500 clinical hours.
Q: If I took a non-pre requisite class my freshman year and got a D the first time, the second time a B, I know CASPA calculates both and averages the two. How do you guys view/value someone's application with a D and not so good grades in the beginning of Undergrad?
Q: I have a 3.7 science GPA, but Caspa calculation overall GPA 3.2. GRE 320 would I be a competitive applicant?
Q: I graduated school with a Biochemistry degree in 2012, but I have not pursued anything related to medicine or science since then other than becoming an EMT-B. Also, my grades were considerably less than stellar for some of the prerequisite classes. However, I have been recently thinking of applying for PA school again. If I decided to enroll in the local community colleges to raise my GPA and reapply, is there a decent chance that I may be accepted?
Q: I am curious about how strict the GPA requirement is? I know the website says 3.0 and I have read above that 3.4 is required to be considered? Will an application be reviewed if GPA is 3.37 but other aspects are very strong?
Q: I have the minimum GPA for admissions but I want to be more competitive. Do you recommend that I take a one year masters program to increase my GPA or possibly focusing on more HCE?
Q: How can one make other parts of their application look competitive if their science GPA is on the lower end? More HCE hours? High GRE score?
Q: I have my bachelor's in Biology from Penn State Berks and all the prerequisites for the PA program. However, My GPA was under 3.0. Is it worth applying, or do you suggest a way increase my GPA in order to apply? I am an OIF combat medic Veteran.
Q: If I received poor university grades in 2008-2011, and then gained work experience as a CNA and now have been back at University since 2014 earning a 3.7 average GPA am I still an eligible candidate if my overall GPA is about a 2.9?
Q: I am a unique candidate with a low undergrad GPA unique degree with significant HCE. I was hoping to get a better understanding of how holistic your application process is. My undergraduate GPA was affected by immaturity, my father having two heart surgeries and missing school. I have been the lead exercise physiologist at Boston Medical Center for 4 years now, with over 4000 HCE hours. I am a medical volunteer at the Boston Athletic Association for the 10k, half, and full marathons for the last 5 years as a medical sweep. I've been a dedicated volunteer at the Salvation Army since November 2016 and I have committed myself through the end of this year before I begin school wherever I get in. I really want to fess up to my poor GPA due to immaturity coupled with significant familial health problems, I show how hard I've worked to overcome those flaws in my academics. Recently while working 60 hours a week in 2-3 healthcare roles (1 full-time, 2 part-time) I’ve averaged B’s in many courses at BU MET college. My greatest fear is that I submit CASPA and I'm not considered because of my low GPA which was reflective of circumstance w/ immaturity 10 years ago. I want to show you I'm not a high-risk candidate, but high reward. My current HCE, Leadership, volunteering, and GRE, and strong recommendations are reflective of this.
Q: You mentioned you look at all admissions criteria holistically say early on in my college career I had no direction and my grades suffered because of that, but for the last several years my grades have been all As do you take that into consideration when looking at my application or just look at my overall GPA?
Q: If there is a chance of not meeting the 3.0 GPA, what do you recommend doing to make up for that?
Q: I will be graduating from undergrad in May with a GPA of a 3.3. I am considering retaking a class over the summer. Would you recommend retaking a prerequisite course, like Biology which I got a B in or OCHEm which I got a C in, or an upper-level course in Physiology which I got a B in but is very important for PA level classes?
Q: I come from a system where GPA was never used, hence a low GPA, but I have a lot of clinical experience as an International Medical Graduate, what are my chances?
Q: Does the admissions committee look at applicants from a holistic perspective or is GPA weighted as the most important factor?
Q: Will my application still be considered with a low GPA? This is the only thing I am lacking on my resume. I plan to excel in my HCE, volunteering, personal statement, and recommendations.
Q: If I obtained a 1-year masters degree while working, would that change how my GPA is evaluated during the program as opposed to someone who just went to school?
Q: I would like to start by explaining my background: I have thousands of hours of phlebotomy experience, I have been a phlebotomist for four years. I have completed over 200 hours of shadowing under an internal medicine PA. My science GPA is a 3.5, however, I have a cumulative GPA of about a 2.8; due to my grades while completing my associate's degree being factored in. During this time I was not very dedicated to academics. Would my GPA derail my acceptance?
Q: My undergraduate GPA through CASPA is a 2.8 cumulative and science. I am currently completing a Master's degree in Basic Medical Sciences where I have completed 20 credits so far with a cumulative and science GPA of a 3.6. Will this be looked at on my CASPA application or are admissions decisions based solely on the cumulative undergraduate GPA's?
Q: Through CASPA my undergraduate GPA is a 2.8 cumulative and science. I am currently working on my Master's in Basic Medical Sciences where I have completed 20 credit hours so far with a cumulative and science GPA of a 3.6. How will my last 40 credit hours be calculated? I want to ensure that my application will meet the 3.0 GPA requirement in order to be reviewed.
Q: My overall GPA is not great, haven’t taken the GRE yet "currently studying", but I served in the Navy as a Corpsman with the Marines for 8 years, so I exceed all requirements for patient care, Letters of Recommendation are excellent, planning on scoring high on the GRE, but I was working 3 jobs while going to school full-time, probably not the best idea, but I got through it. But my fear is that I won’t get the "sympathy" vote. What advice could you give a person who will have everything else but a low GPA 3.0?
Q: If you do not make the minimum grade requirement in a prereq course, is it still worth applying?
Admission Directors Summary and Recommendations
Here are some of the key messages:
1. Upward trends are the rule downward trends will likely lead to a rejection:
We look for an upward trend in grades. We understand that some students have a hard transition to college, or they do not find focus until later. All of your grades will be averaged together, however, we still look for an upward trend. You do want to be somewhat close to the average GPA though. For example, if your total GPA is a 2.8, that is going to be hard to overcome. If it is a 3.0 or higher, with significant other experiences, we can work with that to an extent. - A.T. Still University PA program
2. One low grade is not going to be of much concern, but if you have a lot of them, Houston, you're going to have a problem:
One C is not going to be a concern, although a very recent C is not ideal. If all other grades are As that will help. If you have a lot of Cs that is a concern. - A.T. Still University
3. In the face of a low GPA, the GRE may become your ally:
GRE's tend to be lightly weighted but in the presence of a low GPA it can be of service: Candidates with a lower GPA can benefit by submitting competitive GRE scores. Certainly, high levels of work and volunteer experience can help as well. - Carroll University PA program
4. Recommendation letters matter:
It's not quantity, it's quality. We value a MEANINGFUL HCE experience and we definitely look at the GREs. Beyond that, we are strongly community-oriented so love to see community involvement. We also give a fair amount of weight to the personal narrative and even more to the letters of reference. Know your recommenders! Make sure they know you well! - Case Western Reserve PA program
Read more: Secrets of Successful PA School Letters of Recommendation
5. Postgraduate work can be used to build up a low GPA:
CASPA lets us know your GPA for your masters as well as undergrad and we look at both and would be delighted to take them both into account. - Case Western Reserve.
6. Postgraduate work is not weighted higher:
Postgraduate work is not weighted higher. But we do look at trending, so a stronger post-baccalaureate can make up for a weaker undergrad - Duke University
7. If you fall short often you can still apply, but you better be pretty impressive:
The 3.0 is required but if you do fall just short, you are welcome to continue moving forward with the process. - Marist College.
We do require a 3.0 cumulative science and cumulative overall GPA for full consideration. You can still apply but I can't make any guarantees that your file would receive full consideration not having satisfied the minimum requirement. - Penn State PA program
8. Even if you have excellent work and volunteer experience this may not be enough to counter a low GPA. You may still need to retake some classes:
We look at the entire application and consider everything, but I will say that GPA is a big part of it and if given the opportunity to improve I would suggest taking some extra science classes to improve it. But yes, work experience is highly valued as well. - A.T. Still University
9. You can retake a course but remember it's the average that matters:
You can retake a course but CASPA will average the two grades to come up with a number: If you don't make the required prereq grade, you might consider retaking the course. - Case Western Reserve PA program
10. The personal statement can be the deciding factor
When I applied to PA school I received more than a few rejection letters. So I went back to the drawing table and rewrote my personal statement, this was the only thing I changed on my entire PA school application. That single difference got me an interview and with a GPA of 2.9, I stepped ahead of many other 4.0 applicants who were placed on the waitlist. I am not bragging, I am simply trying to point out the importance of not just your personal statement but the entirety of your application + an extremely well-written personal narrative. It can make all the difference in the world. If I can do it, you certainly can.
You have some decisions to make
- Are your stats so low you should push off applying to PA school for a few more years while you work on improving your profile?
- Should you alter your list of schools? Apply to developing programs or apply to programs with lower average GPA stats?
- Should you retake some classes or apply to a postgraduate program to show the admissions committee you mean business?
We will address the answers to these and many other questions in part two of this post series, so stay tuned!
Warmly,
Stephen Pasquini PA-C
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Arlene Madrid says
Hi 🙂 I have retaken all of my sciences classes that I needed to take already and I will still graduate with a GPA of a 2.8 I am planning on taking additional summer classes to boost my GPA up to a 3.0 and I already have over 1500 HCE do I still have hope? or should I just take the GREs and take a chance? Should I apply to nursing school instead? I have this dream to become a provider and was planing on also shadowing PA’s this summer as well! Let me know whenever you see this!
Stephen Pasquini PA-C says
Hi Arlene! I got into PA school with an overall GPA of 2.9, so there is always hope! I did not take the GRE because, at that time, few schools required it. It may be worth the effort, though, because a solid GRE score can definitely help. Taking some summer classes to cross that 3.0 line will be helpful. You can click here for a list of PA schools ranked by GPA requirement . We are updating the website with the newest 2023 data, so double-check with the schools on the list to ensure they are still in line with what is posted on their website. If you have any other questions, I am always happy to help.
Jordan Fletcher says
I received a gut punch when caspa verified my application. I thought my cumulative was north of 3.2 only to discover it was below 2.7
I’m non traditional and have spent the last 5 semesters completing the pre reps and have no completed prerequisite for AA, PA school.
My science GPA is over 3.8 and GRE is 303 (I took the test the week I started accelerated Calc and Physics, so I def could have done better)
I have excellent HCE working in recovery from EP and Cath Lab as well as working in OR with Anesthesia.
My cumulative GPA is now at 2.75.
I really wanted to get into FSU as I’m older with kids (I live in Tallahassee).
However I’ve gotten this far and don’t want to let this hurdle derail me.
This article has given me hope.
Jordan Fletcher says
So I’ve completed the combined pre reqs for PA and AA. Since Spring 2021 to present, I’ve completed 33 hours of science prereqs with a 3.85 GPA and 9 hours of gen electives to raise my GPA.
I have made the Deans List 4 times and and the Presidents List 1 time.
I graduated with a Business degree in 2009.
My cumulative sits at 2.75. My GPA is terrible because 20 years ago I had zero direction and catered towards work instead of academics. I didn’t realize taking Withdrawals in early 2000s would haunt me in 2022.
I’m 41 and used to work as a consultant for speech device and eye tracking company for non verbal population. My job was to train clinician and more importantly patient and caregiver.
Currently I work as a Hemostasis Tech in recovery from Cath and EP lab and also work with Anesthesia team in OR.
I have around 2000 hours in a hospital direct patient setting and with my consulting experience over 5000.
Stephen Pasquini PA-C says
Hi Jordan, maybe you have already seen this, but there are many (I like to call them “big picture schools” 😀) that only look at the last 60 credits or have lower GPA requirements. Here is a link to the forum topic on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/prephysicianassistant/comments/hlt1zz/can_anyone_give_a_list_of_schools_that_look_at/
Stephen
Kandy Ochaita says
Hello, I am currently in my last year of undergrad. I have several C’s and D’s and one F on my transcript. I had to help my family during undergrad and pay out of pocket, so it was not an easy road. However, I do not want to give up on my goal of becoming a PA. Because I had to work so much, I never got the chance to do research or shadow a PA. I started volunteer work, but due to COVID, I had to stop going. Could you please give me some advice, on what I should do? Thank you for your time!
Stephen Pasquini PA-C says
Hi Kandy! I admire your grit and determination… it is what had gotten you this far and if you tap into it with confidence, a clear vision, and strong values it is what will also get you into PA school. You will need to correct some of these C’s, D’s, and the F (especially if they are in the sciences) by retaking some of these courses and demonstrating to the admissions committee that you are up for the challenges and hardships of PA school. They just want to know that if they accept you that you can handle the rigors of the program and pass the PANCE. So you need to prove to them that not only are you a hard worker (who was able to overcome many obstacles) but also that you are academically “awesome” :-). So the first thing to do is find which classes you need to retake and take them. 9/10 community college courses are perfectly fine (although some PA schools won’t accept them). There is no good excuse for not having shadowing, volunteer, or PCE/HCE hours in the eyes of the admissions committee. You have to realize that there 100’s of applicants (more likely in the 1000’s) that they are sifting through and the ones that find a way to make this happen will look very good in the eyes of the PA program. While you’re trying to figure out what to do, somebody else is already doing it. So find a way to shadow, work, and volunteer. It’s a must for anyone (like myself) who isn’t applying with a stellar GPA. Try to do great on the GRE – this will help offset a lower GPA. Have strong references through shadowing, volunteering, and working in healthcare. Show that you can retake these classes and get straight A’s…. in the words of the Mandalorian “This is the way.” 🙂
I hope that helps.
Stephen Pasquini PA-C
Tati Gilbert says
Hi. I recently graduated with a 2.950 GPA and I am worried about applying to PA schools with such a low GPA. I just started on my pt hours as an EMT and am hoping to have in the 2000 range before I apply. Do you think this will be enough?
Jen says
My GPA is 2.3 and I am taking more classes which could bring it up to 2.4. I want to go to PA school. I am an immigrant and started undergrad with minimum knowledge of english in US which affected my gpa. I am very passionate about orthopedics PA and shadowed 4 PAs, 1 MD, 1 NP for more than 40 hours. I have 2 years of direct patient care experience and currently working in the hospital. what are my chances to get accepted into the PA school? Any suggestions and honest answer will be appreciated.
Thank you
Stephen Pasquini PA-C says
Everyone’s chances of acceptance to PA school are based on more than just GPA, but you want to make sure you are as competitive as possible. A 2.4 GPA, in most cases, will not be competitive. Without access to your transcripts, it is difficult to make recommendations. If you are interested, we do offer one-on-one consulting. We could evaluate your transcripts (and your experience) holistically and provide you with detailed guidance and a plan/timelines for application: https://www.thepalife.com/pre-pa-consulting/.
Please let me know if you have any questions. I am happy to help!
Stephen
Don Phan says
I have taken some courses at a community college, specifically a college that only does A,B,C,D, and F. No plus or minuses. When it transferred over to my university, the university accepted the credits, but they will not be accounted for in my university GPA. I was wondering when I apply to PA school, will they look at the grade I cumulated at the community college? Or will they only look at the university GPA? Also, although it is just an A, will it be counted as a A+ or A.
Stephen Pasquini PA-C says
Great questions Don! I wish I could answer your questions but I am not entirely sure of the answer and I don’t want to mislead you. Have you created a CASPA account yet? If not I would recommend it. There is no penalty to creating a CASPA account early, it’s free, and they have an excellent help section with live chat: https://caspa.liaisoncas.com/applicant-ux/#/login
I would love to hear what you find when you discover the answer.
Stephen
Alex Arellano says
Hi Stephen, I have recently graduated from undergrad studies for PA, but do not have any “meaningful” HCE hours. So my plan is to take a Medical Assistant course. If I do stellar on this course, does the board take what I do here into consideration of my GPA as far as an upward trend?
Stephen Pasquini PA-C says
As you know having PCE/HCE is very important. Even more so as the application cycles become ever more competitive. The MA course material will most likely NOT weigh into your GPA considerations although this may be school-specific. I would assume most schools will only look at your college-level science courses as they are a much better predictor of the rigors of PA school.
Stephen
Alex Arellano says
Thanks for your help! I did not do as well on O-Chem as I wanted, I got a C+. So to bring my science GPA up, would I take a higher course, such as Advanced Genetics? Let’s say I do really good and get an A, would that help the board overlook that C+ for O-chem?
Stephen Pasquini PA-C says
Any upward trend in your grades is going to help. I also got a C in freshman O-Chem but I made up for it with strong grades in my upper level science classes in my 3’rd and 4’th years. BUT I also had a-lot of HCE and PCE. This in combination with strong marks is what can really help your application shine.
Loni S. MacKinnon says
I would also like to have your email too just because I also fit into this situation. Thank you so much and I look forward to speaking with you soon!
Stephen Pasquini PA-C says
Hi, Loni feel free to reach out to me through the contact form: https://www.thepalife.com/getting-a-pa-life-contact-me-if-you-have-questions-or-comments/
Adam Weisman says
This is very untrue. The majority of schools will weed out applicants not meeting their minimum even without looking at the rest of their application.
Stephen Pasquini PA-C says
Yes, many schools will weed out applicants not meeting their minimum GPA requirement this is very true. But schools have different minimums, some have no minimums, and others will overlook a low stat if your application is strong in other areas. You just never know. This doesn’t mean it’s always going to be an easy road. But as an applicant with a 2.93 overall GPA who go into a school with a minimum of 3.0, I can tell you it is possible. And I almost didn’t send the application at the last minute. I am glad I did.
K says
I recently found out one of the colleges I attended for 2 semesters is withholding my transcript because I owe.
I remember seeing everything was caught up before I left and relocated back home due to family emergency. I didn’t receive any notice about a bill, so I had no idea that I owed anything. Otherwise I would have taken care of it.
Anyway, will they accept without that transcript when it has nothing to do with prerequisites or my major? The school won’t release unail I pay full debt.
I understand though if there are no exceptions. I’m just irritated about this.
Thank you.
Stephen Pasquini PA-C says
This is a good question K. I would definitely suggest reaching out to several of the programs you are applying to and ask them directly. Given they are outside of your major and are not required to fulfill any prerequisite it will likely be of little importance.
Joshua hunter says
hey I’m sorry to bother you guys with this but I just took my statistics class and my final grade was a C+ I was wondering should take it again
Stephen Pasquini PA-C says
Hi Joshua, it really depends on how far along you are with your studies and what the rest of your grades look like. Only then can you decide if it is necessary to retake a course.
Stephen
Sierra says
Thank you for the article and for podcasting it too, it was nice to get to listen to it on my drive to work this morning. For those of us in the less than stellar GPA camp, do you have any ideas for resources to help determine which programs are a better bet to apply to with a lower GPA being factored in as the most significant weakness in an application (other than looking at the averaged stats of the GPAs of accepted students of each program of interest)?
Stephen Pasquini PA-C says
Hi Sierra,
A good place to start is by searching the PAEA directory and sorting by GPA. They have two criteria 2.5 + http://directory.paeaonline.org/programs?utf8=%E2%9C%93&state=°ree=&caspa=&gre=&health_xp=&bach_required=&min_gpa=2.5&start_month=
and no minimum: http://directory.paeaonline.org/programs?utf8=%E2%9C%93&state=°ree=&caspa=&gre=&health_xp=&bach_required=&min_gpa=none&start_month=
You can do a more specific search as well on my paschoolfinder site: https://www.paschoolfinder.com/pa-program-match/
The next thing to do is to attend online forums. There is one every year offered through PAEA https://www.careereco.com/Fair/EventDetails?fairId=bfc92a00-3ff2-4a3a-bcba-a7000147028b
During the fair, you can find what each PA school prioritizes. You are looking for schools who really take a holistic approach. Some schools say they do, but sometimes it is just all about the GPA. Contact schools directly, and speak with the admissions team, they are a wonderful source of info.
Stephen
Sierra says
Wonderful. Thank you!
Katie says
Thank you so much for this article! I am now in PA school and only had a 3.2 GPA and less than 3.0 science GPA. It took me 3 times to get into school but eventually my HCE started to outweigh my GPA. If being a PA is what you want, DONT GIVE UP. If I can do it, anyone can.
Stephen Pasquini PA-C says
Thank you, Katie, for sharing your story. I hope it inspires others to do the same!
Stephen
Destinie Bradford says
Thank you Katie for the inspiration! Where did you end up getting in?
Manahil says
Hi Katie, I know you’re not allowed to display your school you got into on here, but I’m kind of in the same boat you were on and was wondering if you could email me? My email is [email protected]
Thank you
Pascal bui says
Hey Katie, I was wondering if you can email me the school you went to for physicians assistant school
My email is [email protected]